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Βєτā??? · Oct 25, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Would it be against the rules if i were to operate 8 accounts (which i own) at halloween using keyclone to get all of them to do the right emotes to get rewards.

I asked PlayNC and they said...

Quote:

Hello,

As you pointed out, technically this is not botting. The goal is to prevent automated game play with out a human present "playing" the game. Synchronization is by all technicalities not botting. But, please remember the rule is to prevent automated play. If it does become automated gameplay you can be actioned for botting.

Regards,
GM WUMPUS
The Guild Wars Support Team

Like they said, it is not technically rule breaking, but at the least would you guys view it as ethically wrong?

---EDIT---
How to multi-log/clone

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

@OP, i would say go for it. i would also ask how you do this? sounds like i could get even more in-game goodies then.

1. Exit GW client (if open) copy and paste all the files at the GW directory to a new folder.
2. Download XVI32, open it and go to the new client and go to replace: Guild Wars (text) to aaaaa aaaa (text) then click replace all.
3. Save it, and repeat step one for as many accounts you own.
4. Repeat step 2, but instead of aaaaa aaaa change all a's to then next alphabet, eg, bbbbb bbbb (for 3rd folder) ccccc cccc (for 4th) etc.
5. Download keyclone (im using registered one)
6. Set it up to work with all Guild Wars clients (look for tut on tinternet)
7. Open all clients, sign in, and minimize all but 1 client, make the 1 client full screen and type or whatever.

Keyclone mimicks what you say to all clients, if you see a gang of peeps with [MinT] as their guild, they are all me.

Pm me in game, Southern Eye.

Dronte · Oct 25, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Nope, its not wrong. Its like using multiple accounts for harvesting zkeys with predictions.

DarkNecrid · Oct 25, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

nope, you're there doing it, not botting.

MagmaRed · Oct 25, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Good god. I have 2 accounts, which I bought before Factions was released. I did so because there was no other way at the time to obtain more character slots, and I wanted to have 1 of each class. I now use that second account so little, I gave it to my nephew to use. Why in the world would anyone want/need more than 2 accounts?

I don't see anything wrong with using a program to make all the accounts do the same thing, but as noted in the email from Anet, it is close to what botting is. Just make sure that you do not cross the line and use such a program to do anything that would be botting.

joshuarodger · Oct 25, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Why in the world would anyone want/need more than 2 accounts?

more in-game goodies through prediction points.

@OP, i would say go for it. i would also ask how you do this? sounds like i could get even more in-game goodies then.

MagmaRed · Oct 25, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

more in-game goodies through prediction points.

@OP, i would say go for it. i would also ask how you do this? sounds like i could get even more in-game goodies then.

Sorry, but that is an aweful lot of real world money for virtual goodies. Wish I had money to throw away like that I guess.

Solas · Oct 25, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

I wouldn't see it ethically wrong really, as it's nothign differant then people doing it with 2 accounts or the dragon festival afk drops etc. at least this way your at the keyboard. ( I know its a differant event)

btw what is keyclone?

Βєτā??? · Oct 25, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuarodger

@OP, i would say go for it. i would also ask how you do this? sounds like i could get even more in-game goodies then.

1. Exit GW client (if open) copy and paste all the files at the GW directory to a new folder.
2. Download XVI32, open it and go to the new client and go to replace: Guild Wars (text) to aaaaa aaaa (text) then click replace all.
3. Save it, and repeat step one for as many accounts you own.
4. Repeat step 2, but instead of aaaaa aaaa change all a's to then next alphabet, eg, bbbbb bbbb (for 3rd folder) ccccc cccc (for 4th) etc.
5. Download keyclone (im using registered one)
6. Set it up to work with all Guild Wars clients (look for tut on tinternet)
7. Open all clients, sign in, and minimize all but 1 client, make the 1 client full screen and type or whatever.

Keyclone mimicks what you say to all clients, if you see a gang of peeps with [MinT] as their guild, they are all me.

Pm me in game, Southern Eye -or- Vivec neraverine -or- X Zero Epic X -or- Squib The Ele -or- Rome Does celebrate -or- Cirzoke The Bashed -or- Anton Domratchev.... For more help :P

Minako Sawai · Oct 25, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

One reason for multiple accounts is simply the price per character. To add 8 characters through the online store is $80. Or you can pay $40 to $50 (prices I've seen recently) to buy the Trilogy and get those same 8 characters plus all the extra storage. Simple economics.

On topic, using something like keyclone sounds a bit like a bot to me, but I guess it is in a gray area. I have two accounts and will have them both active, one in LA and one in Kam, mainly just to get the masks. But I'll only play the one during the follow along games.

Siirius Black · Oct 25, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

mmm I have a factions account.. Interesting.

Again, how do you do the zanzien keys with predictions???

Ghengis Kwell · Oct 25, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Goto-guildwars.com-competition-xunali house-register-make predictions-collect Zkeys

...I think thats it anyway lol

Siirius Black · Oct 25, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Ghengis Kwell

Goto-guildwars.com-competition-xunali house-register-make predictions-collect Zkeys

...I think thats it anyway lol

lol, sometimes the easiest things are not perceived the way others do.
Thanks for the tip.

manitoba1073 · Oct 25, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

But, please remember the rule is to prevent automated play. If it does become automated gameplay you can be actioned for botting.

Regards,
GM WUMPUS
The Guild Wars Support Team

Ill reiterate this part for you. As you will be automating the process of your other accounts. So yes it is illegal and you do it at your own risk. There was a thread awhile ago about it not sure what forum it was on. But it was on the same program and about farming with it and its the same procedure.

Sorry.

guildwars hero22 · Oct 25, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Beta perhaps you can explain something for me. are you running 8 clients on one computer or on 4? if you are running on one computer i thought the max was 2 please fill me in - ty

Phaern Majes · Oct 25, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

The only issue I see that you could run into is if you move around. I'm assuming you'll be in the same districts with all of them (only way you can ensure you're using the right emotes). Just make sure you stand still and don't move or people will see 8 accounts moving exactly the same. If you stand still and just do the emotes nobody will know so you won't get "caught". Even if you do get "caught" just save that email from support and they'll most likely remove the ban because they told you it is technically ok.

Βєτā??? · Oct 25, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by guildwars hero22

Beta perhaps you can explain something for me. are you running 8 clients on one computer or on 4? if you are running on one computer i thought the max was 2 please fill me in - ty

I guess you are assuming i'm operating using GWx2, which i am not...
See effectively i'm doing what that program does by editing the hex info for the GW client -However that only edits Guild Wars to Gu1ld Wars, which means you can open 2.

Let me explain...
The client has a restriction that prevents you from opening the client multiple times, each one is give a name (Guild Wars by default) and only 1 client of each name can be opened. By editing the hex of each client to a new name of similar char length, you can manipulate the clients so that multiple ones can be opened.

Racthoh · Oct 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

This forum is to be used for questions pertaining to game content. The only correct answers you will get will come from the technical support of Arenanet.

Oct 25, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47	#2
Dronte Grotto Attendant Join Date: Sep 2006	Nope, its not wrong. Its like using multiple accounts for harvesting zkeys with predictions.

Oct 25, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#3
DarkNecrid Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006	nope, you're there doing it, not botting.

Oct 25, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02	#4
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Good god. I have 2 accounts, which I bought before Factions was released. I did so because there was no other way at the time to obtain more character slots, and I wanted to have 1 of each class. I now use that second account so little, I gave it to my nephew to use. Why in the world would anyone want/need more than 2 accounts? I don't see anything wrong with using a program to make all the accounts do the same thing, but as noted in the email from Anet, it is close to what botting is. Just make sure that you do not cross the line and use such a program to do anything that would be botting.

Oct 25, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26	#7
Solas Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ireland Guild: Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2 Profession: E/	I wouldn't see it ethically wrong really, as it's nothign differant then people doing it with 2 accounts or the dragon festival afk drops etc. at least this way your at the keyboard. ( I know its a differant event) btw what is keyclone?

Oct 25, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#9
Minako Sawai Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: A/	One reason for multiple accounts is simply the price per character. To add 8 characters through the online store is $80. Or you can pay $40 to $50 (prices I've seen recently) to buy the Trilogy and get those same 8 characters plus all the extra storage. Simple economics. On topic, using something like keyclone sounds a bit like a bot to me, but I guess it is in a gray area. I have two accounts and will have them both active, one in LA and one in Kam, mainly just to get the masks. But I'll only play the one during the follow along games.

Oct 25, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#10
Siirius Black Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Dragon's Lair Guild: La Legion Del Dragon Profession: E/	mmm I have a factions account.. Interesting. Again, how do you do the zanzien keys with predictions???

Oct 25, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25	#11
Ghengis Kwell Baby Maker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Guild: Sent Fromhell Profession: D/W	Goto-guildwars.com-competition-xunali house-register-make predictions-collect Zkeys ...I think thats it anyway lol

Oct 25, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#13
manitoba1073 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station Guild: (SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi	But, please remember the rule is to prevent automated play. If it does become automated gameplay you can be actioned for botting. Regards, GM WUMPUS The Guild Wars Support Team Ill reiterate this part for you. As you will be automating the process of your other accounts. So yes it is illegal and you do it at your own risk. There was a thread awhile ago about it not sure what forum it was on. But it was on the same program and about farming with it and its the same procedure. Sorry.

Oct 25, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#14
guildwars hero22 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: farming zashien (keys) Profession: R/Me	Beta perhaps you can explain something for me. are you running 8 clients on one computer or on 4? if you are running on one computer i thought the max was 2 please fill me in - ty

Oct 25, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03	#15
Phaern Majes Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anywhere but up Guild: The Panserbjorne [ROAR] Profession: R/Mo	The only issue I see that you could run into is if you move around. I'm assuming you'll be in the same districts with all of them (only way you can ensure you're using the right emotes). Just make sure you stand still and don't move or people will see 8 accounts moving exactly the same. If you stand still and just do the emotes nobody will know so you won't get "caught". Even if you do get "caught" just save that email from support and they'll most likely remove the ban because they told you it is technically ok.

Oct 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#17
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	This forum is to be used for questions pertaining to game content. The only correct answers you will get will come from the technical support of Arenanet.